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Reader letter: Has the follow-up to Grenfell gone wrong?

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  1. Not a member of the “sprinkler brigade” but wouldn’t they have put the fire out at source where they installed i.e. the faulty fridge

  2. my take on this from the start has been – what would King Charles II have said? The London Building Acts and Byelaws stemmed from the devastation caused by the Great Fire of London in 1666. Flammable materials were banned from the outside of buildings and Party Walls had to extend above the roof line (ie. compartmentation). examples of this new construction can still be seen in some of the C18 & C19 terraced houses in central London. The wholesale revision of building control nationwide in the 1960’s & ’70’s, lessened fire control and lost the expertise of the London District Surveyors. this was downgraded further first by the conversion of mandatory regulations to ‘deemed to satisfy’ ones and then by the introduction of privatised building control instead of local authority; in other words wholesale loss of knowledge and independence. Will politicians never learn?

  3. Well done John. You have said what others may well have thought. The use of materials which are combustible at any high temperature should be banned where compartmentation is required or where the external cladding is not suitably fire stopped. The use of light weight framing elements is also worthy of concern. These metal units will not withstand the extreme high temperatures reached once a fire gets hold and the resultant collapse in their inherent strength will result in unacceptable circumstances such as fire re-entering the building or allowing smoke to penetrate areas thought protected. Lets consider pushing for immediate publication of revised standards and fine tune if necessary at a later date. Action not just words. Adrian Brown MRICS (not quite retired)

  4. Could not agree more. We have been discussing exactly this at our Board Meeting earlier today.

  5. Dear John
    You say, ‘What has happened since; an enquiry has been set up, now of approximately two years’ duration that has achieved what? Absolutely nothing!’
    I have nothing to gain from replying to your comments but even I know like many in the industry that much has and is happening,
    All the occupants of high rise buildings now have a better understanding of what to do in the event of a fire.
    This weekend in Bolton no one lost their life.

    You said ‘we all know that sprinklers are a vital tool but only achieve specific tasks. And would not have made a significant difference here.’
    How do you Know ? a sprinkler may have put out the fire at source.
    The 2nd phase of reports are due in the new year lets wait and see.

  6. John you have written what many of us have said many times. When I hear of other countries placing the suspects in Jail I wonder why we don’t do the same. On more than one occasion I was threatened with dismissal for being too vocal to my superiors and clients. Those clients know who they are, I hope their demons look back at them in the mirror every morning. To our younger engineers I urge them to be brave and speak out without fear, you now have the whistle-blowers charter to gain some comfort from, all power to you.

  7. I agree with Janet. The policy seems to be ‘lets take a risk and hope we get off with it.

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